Lets Keep Piers and Send a Few Others Packing

The British talk show host Piers Morgan has apparently offended a great number of gun advocates with his staunch position against America’s ineffective gun laws. Based on comments he made on a recent show with guest Larry Pratt, the Executive Director of Guns Over America, over 80,000 gun enthusiasts and counting want to have Mr. Morgan deported. Of course, he has joined other public figures such as Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Senator Diane Feinstein, in stating the painfully obvious – America has gun laws which coupled with our violent culture cause us to be the world leader among the wealthiest nations in gun deaths and it is not even close.

Just for context, the US has 80% of all gun deaths when measured with the other 22 wealthiest nations and 87% of all children gun deaths. In 2010, the Children Defense Fund reports that 2,694 children and teens died from gun deaths. You would need to multiply the 20 children that died at Sandy Hook Elementary by a factor of 135 to get that many deaths. Since 1979, the US has seen 119,000 children and teen gun deaths. As bad as these mass killings are, the greater tragedy occurs on a daily basis. There are many responsible gun owners who would agree that we have to stop this gun violence now. This is a unforgiveable lack of stewardship by our elected officials.

Let me state that I am not a huge fan of Mr. Morgan, but I have on occasion watched his show if he had an interesting guest. I did not see this particular show, but have read the news reports. Apparently, Mr. Morgan was not a very congenial host and tended to talk over his guest. This is one reason I don’t care for his show, but this must be the new normal as many talk show hosts now talk over the guests. Even though I like Bill Maher’s show, I get frustrated with him when he talks over a guest making a good point. I have always been in a favor of civil discourse.

But, even though Mr. Morgan can be an asshole at times, his concerns over our inane gun laws in America are still valid. We have a problem and will continue to have a problem unless we address our gun laws, culture of violence and unhealthy combativeness, lack of civil disagreement, and mental health care access. We should not overlook the middle two reasons. We have people who argue and do not know how to reasonably agree to disagree. Yet, here is where the Wayne LaPierre and the NRA are wrong. Access to guns when angry lead to unnecessary deaths. People with access to guns kill people; people who do not have access don’t. 

Yet, back to Piers Morgan. In our country, we give people the right to state their opinions, even if you do not like what they say or how they say it. So, we should not deport Mr. Morgan for stating his opinion or for being an asshole about it. If that were the case, there are few people with strong opinions who would move way ahead of Piers in the line to deport.

- The entire congregation of the Westboro Baptist Church, who pickets military funerals demonizing the deceased soldiers and says God is punishing America for tolerating gays in the military. As of this writing, there are over 247,000 signatures on that same website advocating for Piers’ deportation who want this church registered as a hate group.

- Reverend Terry Jones of Dove World Outreach Center in Florida who has inflamed many by burning Korans. His actions were chastised by our generals and the President as they led to the death of American soldiers. Even when confronted by the impact of his actions he continued down his path.

- Reverend Charles Worley of Maiden, NC who said in a sermon we should put all gays and lesbians behind an electrified fence. We should feed them he said, but they will die off since they won’t procreate.

- While were at it, let’s throw Rush Limbaugh in the mix. He said he would leave the country if Barack Obama won the first time. Limbaugh is actually far worse than Morgan as he is a bombastic provocateur on purpose. It sells commercials. Although he is in the entertainment business like Morgan, he has a cult-like following that believes what he says is gospel regardless of its relationship to the truth.

I am being facetious to a large extent, yet I want to make a point that there are people who have greater reason to be deported than Mr. Morgan. Heck, if this blog was read by more people, the Old Fart may find himself on a list for deportation. But, here is where I like to throw in my punchline. I am independent voter and thinker (when I am accused of thinking) who seeks the real truth. And, the real truth is we have an unhealthy problem with our poor gun control laws in America. So, it is time to act as we are beyond the tipping point.

12 thoughts on “Lets Keep Piers and Send a Few Others Packing

  1. I vote for the number one candidate for export, the one with no concious, the one who wouldn’t know morality or ethics if they hit him in the face like a cream pie, the one who sold his soul long ago for a few rating points, el Rushbo Limbaugh!

  2. BTG… Do you think it is possible to lessen the fear these “gun people” have, or, do you think it’s a lost cause? I think it’s a lost cause. I think they (consciously or subconsciously) choose a reality where they will be forced to defend themselves and their “freedom”, at some future date, over a far more objective reality where they are utterly powerless over everything and anything for the rest of their lives. The illusion of power being preferable to admitting powerlessness. Dead children and thousands of gun related deaths being preferable to admitting helplessness.

    • I think it is hard to speak in absolutes about groups. I agree there is a fear factor in a number of gun owners, but there are also some very responsible gun owners, some of whom no longer belong to the NRA. I have seen some excellent letters to the editor from such people. Yet, they have been outnumbered by the “Charlton Heston” crowd. I saw great editorial today saying how much the NRA has failed and responsible gun owners should stop supporting them. We need more responsible gun owners to help make change happen joining with non-gun owners. Thanks for reading and offering your thoughts. BTG

      • I would be interested in knowing just what kind of “change” you would want responsible gun owners and non gun owners to make.

        There are responsible people, irresponsible people and all degrees in between. Any of them will, if they feel an acute “lack of control” in their lives, be tempted to purchase firearms when they are reminded of how vulnerable they are by news of mass murders. Control is a human NEED. Terror Management Theory explains all this beautifully. One can hardly blame the NRA for doing what they exist to do…. Sell more guns. Automobiles are one of the greatest causes of atmospheric pollution, not to mention death as a result of accidents. Does that mean I can call the American Automobile Association a failure… or, blame them for pollution and deaths?

        It’s a “control issue” and one can hardly blame profit motivated organizations for seeking profit and exploiting a golden opportunity. The NRA didn’t cause the portion of our population that “feels” an acute lack of control in their lives any more than the guy who sells umbrellas causes the thunderstorms that make people buy umbrellas.

        I think if you want to solve this problem you must understand the cause and the cause is a culture that offers people far to little control over their lives. Control, real or imagined, is ALWAYS a highly profitable and marketable product because without it people cease to thrive biologically. It is what religion is about… it is what doctoring is about. There is simply no end to what people will do, or, put up with for what they perceive as “control”. Here is an interesting example…

        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/business/questcor-finds-profit-for-acthar-drug-at-28000-a-vial.html?hpw&_r=

      • Mrs. N, you raise good points. But, at the heart of what is being done is one simple concept – fear sells. The NRA is superb at priming the pump of fear. Their PR engine pounces on opportunities to sell guns. Obama’s election has been used to sell guns, when the truth is he has been a terrible gun control President. I hope he can remedy this. For starters, it would be nice for the NRA to acknowledge that this is a problem and not be part of the problem. There is a body of work going on some schools and it needs to be perpetuated more and is worth every bit of funding. It begins early on, but it needs to be addressed now for older kids. It is teaching kids how to both advocate for themselves, but also learn to behave and treat conflict resolution with civility. To be honest, we will likely be unable address the mass shooting, as one person can slip through a crack if they truly want to. Arming others will only introduce killing situations where they were not before. Armed guards is one thing. Arming a teacher with a gun close to children is another. Getting the kids out of harms way probably saved more lives than if one tried to be Dirty Harry. Thanks for offering your comments, they are always welcome. BTG

      • You are SO right with this BTG… “Fear sells. The NRA is superb at priming the pump of fear.”

        I would only add that they are nowhere near as good as the AMA, National Pharmaceutical Association, Catholic Church, … and those people who make those… “Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!” commercials. (short list)

        Happy New Year
        All the Best
        Mrs. N.

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