Politically incorrectness versus rudeness

To permit himself to run down everyone else, Donald Trump has noted that the real enemy in America is political correctness. With all of our problems in the US and world, that is the largest problem we have per Trump. He has been joined in this belief by most of GOP competitors, including presumably more level-headed candidates like Dr. Ben Carson.

On the flip side, when two global leaders at a World Forum of some sorts were asked what were the biggest issues in the world, Bill Gates responded with lack of uniform access to technology. His co-speaker, who I must confess I do not remember his name, said, the lack of civility. When we start treating each other so poorly, conflicts become bigger and we are more at an impasse to solve the world’s problems.

Back to uncivil behavior with those who would prefer we do away with political correctness, this is a very unhealthy course to take. I recognize that political correctness can be taking a bridge too far, so we should highlight those examples. I also realize that comedians have lamented political correctness as it questions their punch lines. Again, lines can be crossed, but we could be more tolerant of each other and understand when a joke is being used to convey how ignorant a position is.

Yet, for a presidential candidate to indict groups of people from Mexicans to women to POWs to Blacks to other leaders, is poor form. We must expect more from a leader who will be representing our country. To me, when you say everyone else is incompetent or a loser, that shows that your arguments are poor. It also means if you indict others like this, then your comments and policies need to show a better understanding of the issues. It is more than OK to indict policies, but indicting people is another matter.

For example, when Trump says someone is incompetent, he is less served when he follows that label with poor policy statements. When Carson says Obamacare is akin to slavery, that is showing a lack of understanding that Obamacare helps people, saves lives and keeps folks out of bankruptcy, which do not seem to be consistent with slavery. This also goes for anyone who labels things with demonic labels like Nazism, Apartheid or slavery. This is disingenuous and done with intent, as labels are easier to remember and what something does or does not do, is harder.

So, let’s be civil and focus on ideas and issues to solve problems. When you label or call people bad names, it shows you have a poor grasp of the problems and problem resolution. It is also rude and highly unpresidential.

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52 thoughts on “Politically incorrectness versus rudeness

  1. Very unpresidential especially when you’re suppose to represent all the people. I just hope that the majority aren’t really that stupid. He is telling America the only people he is concerned about are rich white men and screw the rest of you. Oprah made a comment in regards to his statement about blacks going back to Africa. Not sure of wording. “The dye from that “craker’s” toupee must be leaking into his brain. I’ve never heard Oprah label anyone like that.

      • Very interesting and not surprising. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a very thoughtful, articulate, and diligent person. The personal attacks by Trump are a variation of the same response (loser, incompetent, clueless). If a candidate does not have the wisdom to simply not respond or respond in a thoughtful way to criticism, then they are not a good candidate for president. Let’s face it, the president will be a lightning rod for criticism and if he wins and purports himself in this manner, he will embarrass our nation.

      • I agree – but I also believe that he is already embarrassing the nation just by acting the way he is – and more embarrassing? That so many Americans are going right along with it. Humiliating.

      • And, we teach our children to treat others like you want to be treated. Actions speak louder than words. He is providing so many teachable moments about how not to act.

  2. BTG, I am really surprised that you refer to Carson as level headed. He is a wacky as comb-over Trump, just on the other side. You note his remarks that Obamacare is akin to slavery, he also claimed that women are responsible for rape. These are just as nutty things to say as anything the Trump has to say.

    As I said before, I support Trump in the race, for the damage he continues to do to the party.

    Keep up the good work

  3. An uneducated and ignorant electorate will enable demagogues like Trump to thrive. I recently read that 60 percent of his supporters believe Obama was born in Africa and is a Muslim. I would prefer to see candidates who attempt to educate their supporters instead of pandering to them. At least McCain attempted to correct supporters of his who made such ludicrous claims about Obama..

    • Excellent points. McCain’s efforts were not enough to hold back the tide of these preposterous beliefs. The pseudo news outlets allowed Trump to feed this extreme base for years without repercussions. And, now his inane, unsubstantiated opinions have been given more credence with others not calling him on the carpet for his boorish behavior.

  4. Note to Readers: LGould brought up recent history when Senator John McCain stopped a woman in a campaign crowd who was running down Senator Obama as un-American and evil. He said something like, ma’am, Senator Obama is a fine person and cares deeply about our country. This was leadership and was McCain at one of his finest moments. We need more of that. Candidates should have quieted talk of birth certificates (one of whom is now leading in the GOP poll), quieted the talk of death panels in the ACA (which was never true and actually what they were referencing was productive end of life discussion with your doctor), e.g. We need candidates to educate not misinform which is done in great measure. We also need politicians to cease the win-lose rhetoric where they feel obligated to disagree with the other side’s idea. It is accurate to speak to the dysfunction in Washington. Yet, the solutions are not moving farther apart. The solutions are collaborating and coming together. If a candidate advocates the strident, I am right, you are wrong view, do ourselves a favor and don’t vote for them.

    • I agree, but I feel the more rational folks need to ask why someone follows him and then offer corrections where possible. I was reading an article just now. One follower said “Trump is different. He is not just telling us what we want to hear.” Untrue, he is telling you precisely what you want to hear. In fact, what he says today, differs from what he said yesterday and will differ from what he says tomorrow. One person said he would stop us from being a laughingstock around the globe. Actually, he would be the laughingstock, as he would make this egregious statements and people would tell him to take a hike. He is taking this folks for a ride and they do not know they are.

  5. This dovetails nicely with my recent post on the topic of ‘the tyranny’ of the non-existent ‘politically correct left.”

    We are dealing with a backwater mentality here.

    I hope you don’t mind a re-blog.

    • Hugh, you so right. Nazism is probably the most used label and almost always is used to describe something incorrectly, but nothing near as extreme as what that term represents. Thanks for stopping by, Keith

  6. Wow, good post. But you failed to mention the # 1 world leader, the President of the United States. Obama fails to call Islamic radicals as terrorists, but on several occasions he has named the Republicans as terrorists. You really should have included that example.

    • Many thanks for your comments. While I do not disagree with you, I believe Obama is responding to those who condemn a whole religion for the actions of extremists who use twisted logic. I do think it is correct to identify these terrorists as Islamic Terrorists. I do not like that he has labeled political opposition as terrorists, yet I do think we have political candidates who are making us less safe by demonizing groups of people. They are writing the recruiting language for the Islamic terrorists. This is the premise of an article where several retired generals criticize some candidates for feeding the extremists propaganda rather than sticking with our ideals which are a better weapon against extremism. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Please stop by again. Keith

      • Many thanks. I do wish our President and other leaders would galvanize us behind the concept that we must be better than this. Our ideals are too important.

    • Is it Shelby? Greetings. Thanks for the reblog. I have had this same thought and fear. Since he commented on Carly Fiorina’s looks, would he say something about how Angela Merkel of Germany or Christine LaGarde of the International Monetary Fund look? Would he push to hard and upset apple carts with China or Saudi Arabia? On “60 Minutes” a year ago, they did a report on Trump suing the Scottish government over the offshore wind mills they were building which were visible to his golf course he built. He lost, but while losing showed his fanny and did not endear himself to the Scots. One Scot was so offended by Trump’s manner in wanting to buy his property next to the course, that he put up a wind mill to spite Trump. Thanks for stopping by and please come again. Keith

  7. Note to The Donald: Generalizations are seldom true and always intellectually lazy. In my opinion (and I welcome yours) Trump is not a problem, he is a symptom of a much greater problem. The United States of America has ceased being a democratic republic and has become a de facto oligarchy. Corporate interests run the country through lobbyists and political contributions, steering congressional thought and, in some cases, actually crafting the bills that eventually become law to support the ends of their companies. For most of his career Trump was “one of them”, holding to no political view other than that money talks and those who desire money will listen. A number of those 535 bobble heads in D.C. would have to agree to cut off their own pathways to personal wealth in order to put the country back on track. We didn’t get a (choose a number over 70,000) page tax code by accident and the resistance to changing it is due to the fact that it represents the power to control. Find a PC way to get only the engaged, informed voter to the polls and you might have a start toward a solution.

    • Great comment and very well thought out. I agree with everything you say (and have said similar things), with the exception that Trump is more than a just symptom. He personifies the problem. And, what I find to be a truism more than it is not, are people who are the most intolerant require the most tolerance in dealing with them. Easy example, Trump wants political incorrectness as air cover to permit his being rude in his attacks. Yet, his history is one where he sues people at the drop of hat. I mentioned the Scottish government law suit below. He sued an airport for flying planes too close to his property. He sued a woman to take her house for having the temerity of living too close to his casino (her house was their first). She won.

      You are dead on accurate about the oligarchy and the use of groups like ALEC to promote cookie cutter legislation in states. Democracy requires an informed electorate as you say, and we are far from that. These candidates can pretty much say anything they want as people don’t pay much attention. Per nonpartisan fact checking organizations, Trump has lapped the field on untruths, but Carson has said a few whoppers as has Fiorina, Rubio, Cruz, etc. And, Clinton was less than forthcoming about her emails. We must hold these folks accountable, but it is hard work as very few folks pay attention to the facts.

      Thanks for your comments. Please do come again, Keith

  8. In certain instances, Political Correctness has gone too far. When the ‘Black Lives Matter Campaign’ raised their voice, I raised mine…”All Lives Matter.” Let’s not go down the road of intolerance, let’s be aware that some have chosen not to raise themselves up. Being white and trying to live down the sins of the generations that came before me is wearing thin. You can’t group me with the ignorant folk of my past.

    I have a son that is a California State Patrol officer, not one day goes by that I don’t worry about him. Let’s all call a truce, and pick up poster boards written with what we expect of our elected officials, not what we already know we dislike about them. If we are going to change this world we have to come together and demand excellence from those who wish to lead us.

    • Thanks for your comments. I made small reference to what you comment on, as political correctness can be taken to far. We must allow people who we disagree with or we may think we disagree an audience. That is how we learn we are not that far apart and can find common ground. My key thrust is not being politically incorrect does not give license to someone to be a jerk and call people stupid that disagree with them or use labels with intent to demonize.

      I will pray with you for your son as he and all police officers are in a tough job. No one should be taking the life of anyone, especially a police officer who is there to serve. Yet, we need to train and retrain our officers to handle tense situations, as we each have our biases to act and police have to do so in seconds. Malcolm Gladwell’s excellent book “Blink” speaks to this. There are so many good policeman and so many good acts by them that are not newsworthy, it seems. Yet, we have situations that have occurred where poor decisions or actions have been taken and a life is lost. I would love to see the police union be more like the pilots’ union with a crash. Let’s look at what happened, learn from it and not let it happen again. I also think community policing will go a long way, as we need more positive interactions with the police to see all the good they do.

      You are right all lives do matter, but as a 57 year old white man, I pretty much can go anywhere I want to go regardless of how I am dressed. A Black man, even when he is in his Sunday best, does not have that privilege. If he is stopped by the police, he must move very deliberately as he is thinking this is the last thing I might do on earth. The best example of this is in Detroit the police spoke with a 65 year old white man with a rifle for 45 minutes to get the rifle from him. In Cleveland, a twelve year old Black boy was killed in less than five seconds as he had an air gun. This is an example of why the Black Lives Matter groups picket.

      I agree with you that we do need for folks to stop the political machinations which do not allow good discussion of this issue and related issues. The All Lives Matter statements are 100% correct, but I believe it was coined to usurp the attempt for the Black community to say we have a problem that too many Blacks are the ones getting killed.

      I truly thank you for your comments and peace be with you and your son. Please do offer your future comments as I welcome different points of view, as my goal is to see all sides of an issue. All the best, Keith

      • Thank you for responding, Keith. I appreciate an open dialog. We have to have one. Our politicians are creating a tense backdrop at a time when civil obedience is at the utmost need. The rhetoric out of Washington, the inability of them not working toward a common goal, has been a disgrace. The true leadership in this country must come from us, the people.

        By the way, I’m six years older. 63. How did time fly so fast? 🙂

        You have yourself a great day. Thank you again for your note.

        ☕️❤️

      • Many thanks. Time did fly didn’t it? I think we still are young at heart, we just have more responsibilities and experiences that tell us to be mindful. Take care and have a great rest of your weekend. Keith

  9. Note to Readers: Just when you think we cannot go any lower, we show that we can. Donald Trump is vehemently denying something he did, when it is pretty obvious he did it. And, it is not the first time. He said he was not making fun of a reporter who was questioning the veracity of Trump’s story that thousands of Muslims in NJ were celebrating the twin towers falling. The reporter does not have full use of his arms. Trump now says he does not know this guy and would never mock anyone. Yet, before he made his mocking gestures, he said “You should see this guy” which denotes awareness of who he is.

    But, he also commented in retort to a comment made by another reporter who is paralyzed from the waist down. Trump’s retort was this guy cannot even buy a pair of pants. Trump says he does not mock people. Actually, you quite often mock people, Mr. Trump, especially when you want to avoid the question. My question is this the kind of leader we want representing us?

  10. Note to Readers: I just answered a call from Dr. Ben Carson’s team. The young man played me an audio where Dr. Carson said the politically correct people have been out to get him and laid blame on Obama/ Clinton for various things they have done. Then he came on and asked if he could be candid repeating the same mantra and asking for money.

    I asked if I could be candid. I said I was an Independent and have voted for Reps and Dems. I asked if he believed the BS he just played for me, using the two letter acronym. I said some people may believe that stuff and it is disappointing. Dr. Carson has a lot of questions to answer where he has misrepresented himself per nonpartisan fact checkers as well as saying some bizarre things. It is not the politically correct people who are after him. These are legitimate questions. He is a fine man and accomplished a great deal, but he has never held office and he needs to respond to these questions as his answers to date show he is not qualified for the job.

    I thanked him for his time and being involved, but I would need to pass at this time. His theme of painting a politically correct force that is out to get him is in keeping with the theme above.

    • Good for you. I won’t answer the phone these days unless I know who is calling! But it does seem tome the term “politically correct” is being misused on a number of fronts. It means, as I understand it, simply the avoidance of terms found to be insulting or hurtful to certain people. Being polite and not being rude has very little to do with political correctness. When one is being politically incorrect, I gather he or she is simply using a term that our culture at large has agreed is offensive. In academia, as you suggest (and I have said in numerous posts) the offense has taken on a life of its own and one must watch every word written or spoken to the point where it is impossible to say what needs to be said!

      • Hugh, I agree. But, one thing is for sure, lying is not correct, either politically or inpolitically. One of Carson’s biggest whoppers is when he said he has no relationship with an unethical drug company that was fined by the State of Texas for false claims when in fact he did and does per the nonpartisan fact checkers. Thanks, Keith

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